I have been blessed by the positive support I have recieved for this blog and it's mission to speak the truth about the spiritual abuse and blasphemous teachings imposed on those who followed Deborjah Taylor. We are to forgive one another for the wrongs done to ourselves by another for WHO IS WITHOUT SIN ? No one. BUT, it does not mean that we are to remain silent. We are to warn the brethren when we see a false teacher leading the people astray. We are to expose false shephards who are destroying the flock. We are to follow the example given in the New Testament and NAME NAMES so as not to leave our brothers and sisters to try to figure out who the false teacher is. This will almost always cause the False Prophet and those around her / him to point the finger and accuse the one speaking up, of " spewing hate ". This is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to " muddy the water " so as to take the heat off of themselves. It's to be expected but not feared. See my post titled - " They Told Me If I Left ".
With this in mind, I have a comment that was recently left by the step-daughter of my former cult leader . What follows is first , her ENTIRE comment to me. Then I will respond to each of her comments in bold type.
Lisa,
I am not sure what you are going to do with the rest of your life... Now that your "life's mission" is null as the hate you spew is against a dead woman. DeborJah died months ago from the stress placed on her by those like you. You write that all blogs positive will be removed... What are you afraid of? Some of us came away with a deeper understanding of our spirituality and ourselves. And this blog can't take that away. We can now only take the truth of what was given and continue reaching for the light... For ourselves... by ourselves... one on one with Jahwah.Because that is all it really was suppose to be.Self and Jahwah. I do pray for you and your family and perhaps your next "life's mission" won't be so hate filled and you can finally find peace.
I would like to pass on a message on to Julie though... I really want to thank her so very much. I once loved her like a sister, and sadly that is gone, but the gift she left behind is more precious than all the gold of Ophir... She gave me my soulmate and for that I will be forever grateful. I hope she too has found happiness.
If you have anything you need to say to me, my email address is still the same. May you all find peace through Jahwah's love and mercy.
Aron
Lisa,
I am not sure what you are going to do with the rest of your life... Now that your "life's mission" is null as the hate you spew is against a dead woman. DeborJah died months ago from the stress placed on her by those like you....
Dear Aron , my mission to expose Deborjah ( Doris ) Taylor for what she was ...a False Teacher / False Prophet, will never end. There are MANY wounded sheep left behind that need to be tended to as a result of being spiritually mauled by Deborjah. The ENORMITY of her BLASPHEMY is evident .........the bible says "Fear not the prohpet whose words do not come to pass for I have not sent him". It seems to me all the death curses that she prophesied over others..( My father, Tim Rogers, Rachael's husband Glenn and lastly my whole family when she prophesied "let them die" as a result of us leaving the group )..came down on her own head. The truth WOULD be stressful to someone who made a profit from teaching lies in the name of our Father in Heaven and His Son our Saviour. The peace that passes all understanding was obviously missing. Her death was at the hands of her Creator. I do not have the power over life and death. I am just a sheep who once was lost but now I am found !!!
You write that all blogs positive will be removed.
Huh? ! ? I never said any such thing. I said that any posts from anyone supporting Deborjah's blasphemous false teachings would be deleted. I also said that I would gladly recieve any who were FORMER members, any who had genuine questions or similar experiences to share. This was a neccessary step to protect others from being led astray.
What are you afraid of?
Certainly not Deborjah or you for that matter. Your hatefulness knows no bounds. You left the cult for close to a year. You sent everyone in the group an email saying exactly what I am saying now and it was the truth. You made a big scene of coming to Gary and I wanting him to leave his job and come work for your Port-a-Potty business after your husband went on the road. Gary was to help manage the business in Jeffs place.Gary asked you point blank if there was a chance that you would bring Jeff back.... You assured us that you would NEVER bring Jeff back. You lied. You knew that EVERY instruction brought to you By Gary was from Deborjah and he had to OBEY. You accuse me of spewing hate.......we never did anything to you or your step-mother or your aunt but SERVE you !!! When you and your family were at the Hole in The Rock, after you left the group, you and Gary crossed the parking lot at the same time. You made a big DRAMATIC scene showing everyone with you how you couldn't stand to look at him . He worked like a slave for you and you made a point of telling everyone how you told Jahwah that you wouldn't return to the cult until Gary left. You were so filled with hate for us because Deborjah DEMANDED that we ALL leave your business because you "brought back your BAAL husband and we HAD TO STAND AGAINST BAAL". Deborjah ran your business, just as you complained that she tried to do once before. You knew what would happen to us if you brought Jeff back ,you evn said so , but you did it anyway. You knew we had a baby due in 2 months but you did it anyway. It completely wiped us out financially .Even after the way you treated him, Gary sent you an email inviting you and Jeff to dinner. Your response was sarcastic and hateful. Deborjah even said you were heaping burning coals on your own head.We never made trouble for the group ....we left in silence. You NEVER had to obey to the extent the rest of us did. But then again none of Deborjah's family HAD to obey her, except for Gail.
Some of us came away with a deeper understanding of our spirituality and ourselves. And this blog can't take that away.
This blog will continue to speak the truth and sometimes the truth hurts. If you feel your spirituality is being jeopordized by the truth found here, then perhaps you need to re-evaluate your spiritual health and relationship with Christ. He spoke the truth .....it hurt....and he was killed by the Teachers of The Law because of it.
We can now only take the truth of what was given and continue reaching for the light.
I hope you find the light and come out of the darkness that Deborjah's blasphemy led us all into.
For ourselves... by ourselves... one on one with Jahwah. Because that is all it really was suppose to be.Self and Jahwah.
The consensus among the former members of this group is that this is simply not true. The main focus of so much of her teaching's were that SHE was THE BUFFER between us and Christ. That the mind is of the flesh and that thinking for oneself is sinful. We were NEVER ALLOWED to have a one on one relationship with The Father.
I do pray for you and your family and perhaps your next "life's mission" won't be so hate filled and you can finally find peace.
I don't think anyone really believes that you are praying for us, you are just insinuating that we NEED praying for. You are right...we all need praying for and are to pray for one another continually. Deborjah taught that you are not to pray for ANYONE outside the group, remember? Fortunately I serve a saviour who ENCOURAGES me to pray for the lost , the hurt, the sinner. I know I don't deserve His forgiveness but I glady accept it. As for my "next life's mission" there will be MANY as I continue to serve Christ , I am sure He will bless our whole family with multiple opportunities to touch the world for Christ. We are always looking for ways to help the "LEAST OF THESE", and thus the joy has returned to our lives. It will take time to heal from the twisted, narccissistic bondage that we spent years under. But I am at complete peace and so is Gary. We have been incredibly blessed since leaving the cult . We are healthy, happy and strong.
I would like to pass on a message on to Julie though... I really want to thank her so very much. I once loved her like a sister, and sadly that is gone, but the gift she left behind is more precious than all the gold of Ophir... She gave me my soulmate and for that I will be forever grateful. I hope she too has found happiness.
( Julies response to Aron )
Aron... In response to your message to me, Julie... You are so very welcome, but in reality I had nothing to do with your union with Rick. Though, I was sorry to hear of your divorce from Jeff. I was under the impression that you were truly in love with him for all the years you were married to him. The truth about the "marriage" of Rick (AKA Kepha ORyan) and I is that we were not truly in love, infatuated in the beginning, but never truly in love. As I got to know him better, I knew I could never love him and then I was forced by Deborah to marry him or I would be condemned to eternal damnation. I know this is nothing, but bunk, now. You will never really know what happened between us during that time because I found Rick to be somewhat of a liar in many areas. He is also somewhat of an angry person as well as emotionally abusive, especially to my young son. He had more problems than I had the tools to deal with. It was not a happy time, and I am sure that whatever he tells you of me is a lie due to his insatiable desire to constantly lift himself up. Hopefully, for your sake, he has changed, but those kind of changes require much inner work and time, which I never saw to be of any great interest for him. And, of course, you were not with the group at that time so you really had no idea of what was going on then. You say you wish happiness for me and I thank you... I am happy. Ironically, one of the greatest lessons I have learned after leaving the group that true happiness can only come from within.
I am back with my children and family after 5 years and am very happy at my designated post, of which, by the way, I should have never left and still remain in a recovery state and probably always will. But, however, I still do believe that everything happens for a reason and that I have definitely walked away from the group a much stronger person. A person that will not be taken on such a long false journey again. I remain very guarded in that way. My relationship is between me and my Maker, not me, Deborah and my Maker. This brings me that peace that surpasses all understanding.
I am very surprised, though, as intelligent of a person as you are, that you still remain ignorant to the definition of what a cult is even after leaving the group for a whole year! It completely baffles me that during that year you were gone, especially after leaving under such a great influence of anger against Deborah, that you returned without ever educating yourself as to what a cult is. I would have known you to be more intuitive than that. I am in great hopes that you don't fall into a trap of carrying on Deborah's reign of terror on unsuspecting victims. Thankfully, I really don't see you as a person that can maintain enough self-control in which to carry on as Deborah, had she lived on. You've never struck me as the type that would have the desire or even the stamina to micro-manage all the other lives in the group as she did.
I certainly don't rejoice in the death of Deborah as I have never been taught that kind of value, but I can say with the utmost of confidence that I do feel a great sense of peace and relief that she is no longer here to terrorize others under such a false cloak of the Almighty. I do wonder what she will have to answer to.
I hope that all of you who are still left there can sort through all of the mess that has been created by Deborah and get your lives back to where they need to be, especially for the kids involved as they have no choices in such life-long devastating matters.
Genuinely,
Julie
If you have anything you need to say to me, my email address is still the same. May you all find peace through Jahwah's love and mercy.
We recieved The Father's love and merciful gifts of Salvation and freedom when he delivered us from the illegitimate reign of Deborjah Taylor who usurped the place that belongs to the one true King and That is Christ himself.....Lisa
Aron Aron Taylor, AKA Aron Bronson, AKA Toni Bronson
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It is very obvious that those who do not recognise the lie does not know the truth. Paul sets the example by NAMING the false prophets by name. Of course we do not hate the sinner - but we despise the sin.
ReplyDeleteDeborah is just one of many who will be exposed as Jesus Himself said that He will not come less he (the man of sin) be exposed.
It is ironic that "exposing" evil is seen as being hatefilled rather than fulfilling prophecy. The fact is... "evil proceed if good men do nothing"
The gift of discernment is becoming a duty call... more and more
Robbie,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your words of support and encouragement. I agree with you wholeheartedly that discernment is indeed our duty. Please feel free to stop by any time !
Lisa
Lisa, I would just like to confirm my (our) case. God is the one exposing the "evil" we are there to rise up against it. Indeed they MUST be named.
ReplyDeleteJob 20:27 The heaven shall reveal his iniquity; and the earth shall rise up against him.
Mt 10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
2th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
There are even Biblical parameters that allowes us to judge these characters. "Wise as a serpent, gentle as a dove" should however be our motto. This wisdom is the working of Jesus in us through His Spirit and His Word.
The angel said to Ezekiel " THE DECEIT IS EVEN WORSE THAN YOU IMAGINE"
Justin Peters gives a seminar in which he exposes all these Word Faith preachers that has infested our churches.
2th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
Here is proof that he (satan) has indeed entered our churches and is posing as God!
This is NOTHING to get depressed about because it is what God said would happen. It is prophecies being fulfilled and I therefore consider it as EXCITING STUFF!
The problem is - we do not recognise the Devil. We were not taught what to look for. When we asked about satan we were told "lets not go there" Then Jesus came and He is doing what He said... EXPOSING him.
Spiritual pride as wel as the "god of this world will blind" those who allows/take part in these evil and false doctrine.
It is so easy to spot them... Just know what God says in His word.
Go Lisa!
Dear Robbie,
ReplyDeleteI thank you so much for speaking to Lisa in the way that you do. Not only she, but I need to hear these words as well. My name is Julie and I lived with Lisa and her family in Moab for 5 years and then was made to marry a man that I was not in love with or I would be condemned to eternal hell, so I reluctantly married him. Lisa's family left very soon after the marriage. I have also left the group since and was very thankfully granted an annulment by the Judge of the state in which I live. During all the time I was living in Moab, I lost my 2 very young children for 3 and 1/2 years by the order of the court, but also by my own wrong decisions in order to serve Deborah and her group. Now that my blinders have been removed, I realize that my experiences with Deborah were not love at all. My children were left by me for 3 very critical years of their lives in which they desperately needed, me, their mother. Their father was there and he did the best he could raising them without me, but they certainly did need more during those particular years of their lives in which he did not possess all of the tools, i.e. their mother. It was a very difficult time for all 3 of them. In essence, if at all possible, I believe that children need both parents precluding that there is no abuse going on in the family.
Anyway, I just want to thank you, again. It is a blessing to know that there are those out there such as yourself that understand the day that we live in and the false teachers or wolves that would clothe themselves as sheep. I, along with Lisa and any others interested, will never stop to warn others of such atrocities to those that desire such awareness.
A sister in Christ,
Julie
Dearest Julie.
ReplyDeleteI have no doubt that you and Lisa were chosen as soldiers. You remind me so much of Paul who had such a radical repentance. (thanks to God who stepped in)
All that Paul did before God reclaimed him was part of his training to become a soldier of God. That is why Paul is so good at discerning and exposing the god of this world.
2ti 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
Your children will know one day. While they were without you, you were busy with training to become a brave little soldier of God. Soldiers often spend time amongst the enemy to learn there "ways" to eventually qualify as member of a highly skilled special force.
What a privilege to be called to duty and then to be trained by God Himself. what an honor to hear "lisa, Julie, I called you by your names"... and off course, It does not pay much to be that soldier here on this earth - but the retirement plan is out of this world!
I live in South Africa. I had a wonderful life as a child with my three brothers and a sister. Even now we are all so blessed.
By the grace of God He needed me first, because I thought I had it all. Now I am a soldier too.
And what an honor to serve Him in an army with brave little soldiers like you two.
A brother in Christ
Robbie
Dear Robbie,
ReplyDeleteI thought I had posted a comment to you a few days ago, but something went wrong. I apologize for the delay.
Your words to me are very kind and encouraging; however, I do not feel like any kind of soldier at this point, but will never forget my experience... please let me explain. I am still in a place of diligently trying to get my life back together. I am short a few days of 1 year of being back home with my family. My children are doing very well and so is my husband. It has been quite a shift going from cult living to free living, but such a relief. Each kind of life maintains such a different kind of exhaustion, but the life I live now serves a much greater purpose than I could ever imagine, simply because I am finally back serving at my designated post as the wife and the mother I was meant to be. If this, in any way is considered serving as a soldier then I can justifiably relate.
I have not had much time to recover in the way of religion nor do I go there very much in my mind. I have not gone searching in the least, but have odd things come my way in the sense of belief systems. I try to find happiness in everyday, but am quick to reject organized belief... better to reject than to fall for anything. Time and healing are key to my circumstances.
From your blogs here at this site, it would seem that you have suffered spiritual abuse, yourself? If so, can you give me a link in which to read or give me a short summary of your experience? I, as well as others, are very interested to hear of spiritual abuse experiences in the lives of others. It is very healing for all of us, as former members, of this particular group, and others as well, just to know that we are not alone on our journey to recovery.