Vengance is Mine Saith The Lord

I pray that each time I post that it is not out of a desire for revenge. I want to say that I am not without sin. I am a sinner that Christ shed his precious blood in order to save. It is my desire that no one else suffer the loss of their relationship with Christ at the hands of a false teacher / false prophet. I hope to speak the truth boldly but out of love.

Sincerely,
Lisa

Deborjah Taylor of Jahwah's Little Flock of Overcomers in Moab Utah Passed Away on October 26, 2009

I have been checking their webpage for a few days and it's interesting to note that six weeks after the death of the cult leader, they haven't announced it on their website. Hopefully they are not trying to hide her death just to keep those tithes coming in !!

Lisa

Wolf in " ANONYMOUS " Clothing finally reveals herself

Hello Everyone,

I have been blessed by the positive support I have recieved for this blog and it's mission to speak the truth about the spiritual abuse and blasphemous teachings imposed on those who followed Deborjah Taylor. We are to forgive one another for the wrongs done to ourselves by another for WHO IS WITHOUT SIN ? No one. BUT, it does not mean that we are to remain silent. We are to warn the brethren when we see a false teacher leading the people astray. We are to expose false shephards who are destroying the flock. We are to follow the example given in the New Testament and NAME NAMES so as not to leave our brothers and sisters to try to figure out who the false teacher is. This will almost always cause the False Prophet and those around her / him to point the finger and accuse the one speaking up, of " spewing hate ". This is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to " muddy the water " so as to take the heat off of themselves. It's to be expected but not feared. See my post titled - " They Told Me If I Left ".

With this in mind, I have a comment that was recently left by the step-daughter of my former cult leader . What follows is first , her ENTIRE comment to me. Then I will respond to each of her comments in bold type.

Lisa,
I am not sure what you are going to do with the rest of your life... Now that your "life's mission" is null as the hate you spew is against a dead woman. DeborJah died months ago from the stress placed on her by those like you. You write that all blogs positive will be removed... What are you afraid of? Some of us came away with a deeper understanding of our spirituality and ourselves. And this blog can't take that away. We can now only take the truth of what was given and continue reaching for the light... For ourselves... by ourselves... one on one with Jahwah.Because that is all it really was suppose to be.Self and Jahwah. I do pray for you and your family and perhaps your next "life's mission" won't be so hate filled and you can finally find peace.

I would like to pass on a message on to Julie though... I really want to thank her so very much. I once loved her like a sister, and sadly that is gone, but the gift she left behind is more precious than all the gold of Ophir... She gave me my soulmate and for that I will be forever grateful. I hope she too has found happiness.

If you have anything you need to say to me, my email address is still the same. May you all find peace through Jahwah's love and mercy.
Aron

Lisa,
I am not sure what you are going to do with the rest of your life... Now that your "life's mission" is null as the hate you spew is against a dead woman. DeborJah died months ago from the stress placed on her by those like you....

Dear Aron , my mission to expose Deborjah ( Doris ) Taylor for what she was ...a False Teacher / False Prophet, will never end. There are MANY wounded sheep left behind that need to be tended to as a result of being spiritually mauled by Deborjah. The ENORMITY of her BLASPHEMY is evident .........the bible says "Fear not the prohpet whose words do not come to pass for I have not sent him". It seems to me all the death curses that she prophesied over others..( My father, Tim Rogers, Rachael's husband Glenn and lastly my whole family when she prophesied "let them die" as a result of us leaving the group )..came down on her own head. The truth WOULD be stressful to someone who made a profit from teaching lies in the name of our Father in Heaven and His Son our Saviour. The peace that passes all understanding was obviously missing. Her death was at the hands of her Creator. I do not have the power over life and death. I am just a sheep who once was lost but now I am found !!!

You write that all blogs positive will be removed.

Huh? ! ? I never said any such thing. I said that any posts from anyone supporting Deborjah's blasphemous false teachings would be deleted. I also said that I would gladly recieve any who were FORMER members, any who had genuine questions or similar experiences to share. This was a neccessary step to protect others from being led astray.

What are you afraid of?

Certainly not Deborjah or you for that matter. Your hatefulness knows no bounds. You left the cult for close to a year. You sent everyone in the group an email saying exactly what I am saying now and it was the truth. You made a big scene of coming to Gary and I wanting him to leave his job and come work for your Port-a-Potty business after your husband went on the road. Gary was to help manage the business in Jeffs place.Gary asked you point blank if there was a chance that you would bring Jeff back.... You assured us that you would NEVER bring Jeff back. You lied. You knew that EVERY instruction brought to you By Gary was from Deborjah and he had to OBEY. You accuse me of spewing hate.......we never did anything to you or your step-mother or your aunt but SERVE you !!! When you and your family were at the Hole in The Rock, after you left the group, you and Gary crossed the parking lot at the same time. You made a big DRAMATIC scene showing everyone with you how you couldn't stand to look at him . He worked like a slave for you and you made a point of telling everyone how you told Jahwah that you wouldn't return to the cult until Gary left. You were so filled with hate for us because Deborjah DEMANDED that we ALL leave your business because you "brought back your BAAL husband and we HAD TO STAND AGAINST BAAL". Deborjah ran your business, just as you complained that she tried to do once before. You knew what would happen to us if you brought Jeff back ,you evn said so , but you did it anyway. You knew we had a baby due in 2 months but you did it anyway. It completely wiped us out financially .Even after the way you treated him, Gary sent you an email inviting you and Jeff to dinner. Your response was sarcastic and hateful. Deborjah even said you were heaping burning coals on your own head.We never made trouble for the group ....we left in silence. You NEVER had to obey to the extent the rest of us did. But then again none of Deborjah's family HAD to obey her, except for Gail.

Some of us came away with a deeper understanding of our spirituality and ourselves. And this blog can't take that away.

This blog will continue to speak the truth and sometimes the truth hurts. If you feel your spirituality is being jeopordized by the truth found here, then perhaps you need to re-evaluate your spiritual health and relationship with Christ. He spoke the truth .....it hurt....and he was killed by the Teachers of The Law because of it.

We can now only take the truth of what was given and continue reaching for the light.

I hope you find the light and come out of the darkness that Deborjah's blasphemy led us all into

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For ourselves... by ourselves... one on one with Jahwah. Because that is all it really was suppose to be.Self and Jahwah

.

The consensus among the former members of this group is that this is simply not true. The main focus of so much of her teaching's were that SHE was THE BUFFER between us and Christ. That the mind is of the flesh and that thinking for oneself is sinful. We were NEVER ALLOWED to have a one on one relationship with The Father.

I do pray for you and your family and perhaps your next "life's mission" won't be so hate filled and you can finally find peace.

I don't think anyone really believes that you are praying for us, you are just insinuating that we NEED praying for. You are right...we all need praying for and are to pray for one another continually. Deborjah taught that you are not to pray for ANYONE outside the group, remember? Fortunately I serve a saviour who ENCOURAGES me to pray for the lost , the hurt, the sinner. I know I don't deserve His forgiveness but I glady accept it. As for my "next life's mission" there will be MANY as I continue to serve Christ , I am sure He will bless our whole family with multiple opportunities to touch the world for Christ. We are always looking for ways to help the "LEAST OF THESE", and thus the joy has returned to our lives. It will take time to heal from the twisted, narccissistic bondage that we spent years under. But I am at complete peace and so is Gary. We have been incredibly blessed since leaving the cult . We are healthy, happy and strong.

I would like to pass on a message on to Julie though... I really want to thank her so very much. I once loved her like a sister, and sadly that is gone, but the gift she left behind is more precious than all the gold of Ophir... She gave me my soulmate and for that I will be forever grateful. I hope she too has found happiness.

( Julies response to Aron )
Aron... In response to your message to me, Julie... You are so very welcome, but in reality I had nothing to do with your union with Rick. Though, I was sorry to hear of your divorce from Jeff. I was under the impression that you were truly in love with him for all the years you were married to him. The truth about the "marriage" of Rick (AKA Kepha ORyan) and I is that we were not truly in love, infatuated in the beginning, but never truly in love. As I got to know him better, I knew I could never love him and then I was forced by Deborah to marry him or I would be condemned to eternal damnation. I know this is nothing, but bunk, now. You will never really know what happened between us during that time because I found Rick to be somewhat of a liar in many areas. He is also somewhat of an angry person as well as emotionally abusive, especially to my young son. He had more problems than I had the tools to deal with. It was not a happy time, and I am sure that whatever he tells you of me is a lie due to his insatiable desire to constantly lift himself up. Hopefully, for your sake, he has changed, but those kind of changes require much inner work and time, which I never saw to be of any great interest for him. And, of course, you were not with the group at that time so you really had no idea of what was going on then. You say you wish happiness for me and I thank you... I am happy. Ironically, one of the greatest lessons I have learned after leaving the group that true happiness can only come from within.

I am back with my children and family after 5 years and am very happy at my designated post, of which, by the way, I should have never left and still remain in a recovery state and probably always will. But, however, I still do believe that everything happens for a reason and that I have definitely walked away from the group a much stronger person. A person that will not be taken on such a long false journey again. I remain very guarded in that way. My relationship is between me and my Maker, not me, Deborah and my Maker. This brings me that peace that surpasses all understanding.

I am very surprised, though, as intelligent of a person as you are, that you still remain ignorant to the definition of what a cult is even after leaving the group for a whole year! It completely baffles me that during that year you were gone, especially after leaving under such a great influence of anger against Deborah, that you returned without ever educating yourself as to what a cult is. I would have known you to be more intuitive than that. I am in great hopes that you don't fall into a trap of carrying on Deborah's reign of terror on unsuspecting victims. Thankfully, I really don't see you as a person that can maintain enough self-control in which to carry on as Deborah, had she lived on. You've never struck me as the type that would have the desire or even the stamina to micro-manage all the other lives in the group as she did.

I certainly don't rejoice in the death of Deborah as I have never been taught that kind of value, but I can say with the utmost of confidence that I do feel a great sense of peace and relief that she is no longer here to terrorize others under such a false cloak of the Almighty. I do wonder what she will have to answer to.

I hope that all of you who are still left there can sort through all of the mess that has been created by Deborah and get your lives back to where they need to be, especially for the kids involved as they have no choices in such life-long devastating matters.

Genuinely,
Julie

If you have anything you need to say to me, my email address is still the same. May you all find peace through Jahwah's love and mercy.

We recieved The Father's love and merciful gifts of Salvation and freedom when he delivered us from the illegitimate reign of Deborjah Taylor who usurped the place that belongs to the one true King and That is Christ himself.....Lisa

Aron Aron Taylor, AKA Aron Bronson, AKA Toni Bronson

The Narcissist ..er... I mean .....The Wolf in Sheeps clothing at it again !

Hello Everyone! I hope you all are having a wonderful holiday season !! We are having a great time being with family and counting our blessings.

Unfortunately I have some administrative business to take care of in this post but it is imperative that it be done.

I have taken some time to think about how I was going to handle HOSTILE POSTS. I knew it would happen eventually , so it did not come as a surprise when it did happen. The purpose of this blog has always been and will always be to warn others of the spiritual blasphemy taking place in the group JAHWAH'S LITTLE FLOCK OF OVERCOMERS in Moab Utah. This group is led by Deborjah Taylor, AKA Deborah Taylor, AKA Doris Taylor. Having personally experienced the REALITY of her teaching's and the devastation it caused, I have made it my life's mission to never stop warning my brother's and sister's in Christ that THEY WILL NOT FIND CHRIST THERE. I have made it my life's mission to never stop warning those new to Christianity, THAT CHRISTIANITY IS NOT TAUGHT OR PRACTICED THERE. The blood of Christ is trampled upon there ....the freedom found in the shed blood of our Saviour is renounced and the dead letter of the law embraced. She teaches that if we fail to obey her instructions that we and our children under us will not be saved ! THIS IS BLASPHEMY ! Calling oneself a Christian and yet placing oneself under the law that HE died to set us free from is
blasphemy. She teaches that SHE is the BUFFER between Christ and everyone else, hence no need for a personal relationship with Christ. SHE HAS MADE HERSELF THE SAVIOUR.....and that is blasphemy. The danger here is ....when we come face to face with our Father in Heaven and our Saviour on Judgement day ....we will not be able to blame Deborjah Taylor because we do not know Christ. We can't say we weren't warned of the false teacher's sent to lead us away from Christ, because the New Testament is our instruction manual.

THERE IS NO WAY TO THE FATHER BUT BY CHRIST

SO....

ALL POSTS SUPPORTING DEBORJAH TAYLOR'S BLASPHEMOUS TEACHING'S, WILL BE DELETED SO AS NOT TO LEAD OTHERS ASTRAY.

ALL POSTS FROM CURRENT MEMBERS ( Including Deborjah herself ) OF JAHWAH'S LITTLE FLOCK OF OVERCOMERS THAT STILL FOLLOW DEBORJAH TAYLOR'S BLASPHEMOUS TEACHINGS AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO FOLLOW, WILL BE DELETED
SO AS NOT TO LEAD OTHERS ASTRAY.

We will gladly recieve posts from former members and any one else that has genuine questions, as well as those who want to share their own experiences.

Sincerely,
Lisa

Letter from Elisheba ( Un-edited except I have added their real names in parenthesis )

Jordan's Dream

We (the Hawkins) and others were gathered together for a meeting. Jordan (Kristen) was riding her bike and Jachin told her to stop riding because Mom Deborah was there ready to give Jahwah's word. She stopped riding the bike and sat down next to Jachin. Mom began giving the word, Jordan got up and started riding her bike again. Then Jordan and I got up and began to play with Levi (Gregory) and Jubilee (Kierra)and others began to do other things and no one was LISTENING to Mom. She asked and pleaded for us to listen. No one would so she got in her truck and left. After she left, Jordan and Jubilee were approached by a HOG ! The hog was on all 4's at first then it began to walk on it's hind legs erect like a human. It had 2 hands ( human hands ). One was covered in fur like a wild animal with long claws. The other hand was white as snow and had blood red nails. The Hog was trying to punch Jordan in the mouth.

INTERPRETATION
Mom said that the dream is saying NO One is listening to her therefore Not listening to Jahwah !!! The Hog is the devil! He approached the children! The furry hand represents the beast of govt. and when Nebuchadnezzar was turned into a wild animal after Not LISTENING / OBEYING Jahwah. The white hand represents Leprosy !!! SIN !!!

The morning Jordan told Mom the dream, Jahwah gave us Lev. 13 which speaks all about LEPROSY !!! The evening oblation I got the message !!! I was Not Listening to the Father. Mom would tell me to do something i.e. take my colon cleanse ( I would find an excuse not to ). She has been working with our budget. This week she said there was no money to wash clothes. I would have to wash by hand. I rebelled in my spirit and grumbled. I didn't want to listen.

The Father in His mercy showed me that I refuse to do the small things. I am looking at Mom and thinking that the things she instructs me to do is her own opinion and not from Him.

He said if He can't trust me in the small physical things, He surely can't trust me in the spiritual things !!!!

My dear sisters , I don't know if this is true for you but I feel a great URGENCY ! We have to LISTEN & OBEY !!! It is not Mom but Jahwah giving the instruction. Remember at the feast of unleavened bread when he gave us the scriptures about blasphemy against His Holy Vessels. That is where the sin of Leprosy is taking place !!! That is NOT GOOD !!! We don't want a SPANKING from Jahwah !

I could go on and on but I can't write anymore :-) Please if you are not listening and obeying ( even in the small things ) REPENT and JUST DO IT !!! I did !!! Because what I do affects our entire group ! Remember Akin !!!

I love you both dearly !

I hope to talk with you soon

Elisheba (Lanica)

How DID did she control you ?

Hello, first let me start by saying that we met Deborjah through her teachings online. I was a Christian SAHM of 2 and pregnant with our third. My Husband and I had a deep desire to help others and serve Christ. When I foud Deborjah's teachings, they fed our need to DO something to prove our devotion to the Lord. We were naive and ignorant of the gospel of salvation and freedom from works of the law. She was very subtle at first. What you read in her lessons online is the PUBLIC VERSION. It has all the specific referrences to the members of the group edited out before it goes online. The members of the group are routinely humiliated in front of the whole group , but all of that is removed from the lessons BEFORE they go online. She routinely came into my home which is where the lessons were taught and acted like she was a queen. She would not allow anyone child or adult to get up and use the restroom until SHE was ready to take a break. She has had children and adults sitting in their chairs crying because they were about to wet themselves. She once made one of the ladies walk home because she insisted on getting up to go to the bathroom . If she showed up early and everyone was not standing as she entered, she would threaten us with punishment. She BELIEVES that she is the ONLY teacher or mouthpiece of Jahwah. We were so ignorant of the scriptures, that when Deborjah twisted them to keep us following all the laws of the old testament we obeyed. We were continually taught that any disobedience was a sign of distrust and a rebellious heart. Which caused us to try even harder to follow the law to prove that we REALLY loved Jahwah. She would enforce rules on some but not others claiming that "everyone's walk is different, so don't expect everyone's walk to be like yours " That meant that you couldn't complain about how you were being treated or point out discrepencies in what was being taught and enforced on some but not others, PARTICULARLY HER OWN FAMILY MEMBERS, because that was YOUR walk with Jahwah. I was the first one of our group to be excommunicated. It scared me to death. Our family was not ALLOWED to have sugar AT ALL, No chocolate either( because my husband had cavities as did our little girl )I even had to check the ingredients in everything I bought. One day I wanted to do something special for my children so I bought and gave them some dried fruit which had sugar sprinkled on it. We hadn't had sugar in more than a year . I told them not to tell anyone but someone did out of fear and I was busted. There were also some charges that I had complained to everyone about Deborah not allowing me to have a business license. I didn't complain about that since another member of the group owned a Port-a-Potty business in Moab and we would have used her license to buy all of our supplies. I had had my own business license years before and so I wasn't worried. But Deborah needed as much as she could get against me, she was going to make an example of me! She made my husband, who was one of the Elders participate in my excommunication which was to last for three weeks. I was brought into anothers home on one occasion and told to " Sit down, shut up and put your bag of excuses away !" If my husband tried to help me, then he would have gotten a prescription ( disciplinary action ). I was not allowed to speak up for myself or refute any charges brought against me. According to Deborjah, I was rebellious and endangering my salvation as well as that of my children. I was repeatedly told that if I didn't keep all of my children under me in obedience, then they would not be saved. I was constantly under the microscope because I had a hard heart that needed to be broken. My husband was disciplined for coming to my defence when I told Deborah that I needed insulin and she refused to allow me to go to the Dr. She said that she had CURED her sister and she was going to cure me. I was not allowed to refuse. I was told what I could eat, how far to walk every day ( 4.5 miles which was good for me ) when to take my blood sugar etc. After more than a year of her program My blood sugar was still very high all the time. My Dr said that I had liver and kidney damage. I was FINALLY ALLOWED to take insulin she still claims that she helped me. Deborah BELIEVES that she can cure people. There are several instances of health issues among the group that desperately need to be treated but Deborah won't allow it. She needs to have power over people. In some way this old woman needs to be constantly running someones life. One other person who was in one of Deborjah's previous groups, said that being friend with Deborjah is being in bondage......and she is right. She never taught out of the New Testament. It took years to realize that. She teaches that she is in position between all of Jahwah's people and Jawahshuwah ( Christ ), because we needed a " buffer " between us and Christ. What about coming boldly to the throne ? Over the course of five years our family alone tithed more than 30,000 to her. Unlike Christ , Deborah taught that anyone who is not in her group is the Dead , and they are not to recieve any help from the poor fund. Christ was ALWAYS helping " the dead " .....that is how he reached them ! When any of the group needed help from the poor fund, we were made to pay it back. After all those years of tithing we came to realize that not one person outside our group was helped . She will not tell where all the money was spent as if we had no right to know . She will not tell us why all the other groups she has had have left, other than they were all evil and money lovers ( ie stopped tithing to her ). We tithed twenty to thirty percent off the top of everything we earned for five years. We did so faithfully. The FIRST time we asked about why she had changed the tithing rules, she would not speak to us and she called one of the other elders and told her that we had backslidden and that she had an email to prove it. What made her so angry was that we referenced one of her own lessons , which gave a step by step example of how to tithe on gifts you recieve. According to that lesson we were doing it right so how and when did the rules change ? She was fit to be tied that we would after five years , DARE to question her. She controls people through fear. There is no stronger fear than that for your and your children's eternal future. I know this is a long post but there is sooo much that happened to all of us and is still happening to others who are still there. Oh , I almost forgot....there was no sexual funny business going on ! What Carey meant by " pleasure " is that for narssistic personalities, they derive their self gratification by ruling over others. We pray for them to have their eyes opened as the Father graciously opened our eyes. My children still miss the Hawkins children. They were the only other children in the group full time, for five long years. Deborjah taught that all the other children outside our group are full of evil spirits and thus they were not allowed to mix with them. When we left, my heart was broken for Jordan( Kristin ) , Aiyah ( Kierra ), and Caleb ( Gregory ) Hawkins. They would be completely alone , but for my own family's sake , we HAD to go. I pray for their mother Elisheba ( Lanica )as well , that she will come out of the bondage she is in. I am going to post a letter from Elisheba ( Lanica )that she wrote to me and one of the other ladies in our group. This letter shows how even our dreams were interpreted by Deborjah to lift her up and push us down , keep us on our knees worshipping her, not the Father.
Please feel free to ask any questions you like, I will try to answer them in a more timely manner now that I know you are here :-) Lisa

GUILT

Hello all,

This post is difficult for me because it is so personal. But nothing is too personal for a cult leader to use to manipulate their congregation . If you remember from one of my earlier posts, Witchcraft is in operation when you see these three tactics being used, MANIPULATION, INTIMIDATION, AND DOMINATION.
Deborah (DeborJah)Taylor (Jahwah's Little Flock of Overcomers in Moab, Utah), used all these tactics when she forced me to write all the members of my immediate family and reveal that my father had sexually abused me for years. I had forgiven my father years earlier but I was still having problems in my marriage re: self esteem issues, intimacy issues and trust issues. I believed that I could trust my Pastor/Minister/Spiritual Leader or I never would have gone to her for help. At the time, both of my little girls were sick with pneumonia and were very ill, I was scared for them. Deborah(DeborJah)Taylor (Jahwah's Little Flock of overcomers in Moab, Utah)told me that Jahwah had made them sick because I was hiding or covering up for my father's sin. She told me that if I didn't send this letter before Passover that Jahwah was going to kill my two little girls as punishment for my disobedience. I was absolutely devastated. I SCREAMED. I CRIED. I BEGGED. It did no good. I had to decide between my father, whom I loved very much, and my two helpless , innocent ,little girls. I sent the letter, which Deborah(DeborJah)Taylor (Jahwah's Little Flock of Overcomers in Moab Utah)demanded to re-write because my version was not harsh enough "To save his soul".
Naturally my family would have nothing to do with me. By the time we started coming out of the cult JAHWAH'S LITTLE FLOCK OF OVERCOMERS, my father was very ill with cancer. I tried to communicate with him by phone, but he would not return my calls. We returned home to Texas and after getting settled in, I thought I would visit my parents home and try to make peace. But my Father died before I could make peace or tell them I was sorry for letting someone scare me into hurting my family. I was not allowed to attend the funeral or the burial and my Mother and siblings will not speak to me.
The poem you are about to read came to me in my sleep, amidst the nightmares haunted by a wolf in sheep's clothing.

GUILT

Copyright 2009 Lisa M. Wilson

Guilt, like a knife buried to the hilt,
pierces deep, so deep I can not breathe.

The blade meant for Eglon, has instead found me.

I had forgiven,
but was driven,
to deliver the blow,
that would bring him low,
why I listened to the witch
I do not know.

The straight path behind,
has turned into a crooked road before me,
the fog of despair so thick, I can not see.

I am filled with gloom as I stand
at the foot of my fathers tomb.

Guilt, like a blade that my own hands have made,
pierces deep, so deep that I can not breathe.

My soul flows slowly out the hole,
til nothing is left and I am bereft.
All that remains is the shell,
the rest must be in Hell.

If anyone can save me now,
I don't see how.

To posess the Light,
I'll have to fight,
with all my might,
against the Creature of the night.

Maybe then HE will forgive my sin,
and heal the hole left in my soul.

Guilt, like a dagger that made me stagger,
is not from above,
is not of Love.

Guilt, like a sword, is not from the Lord,
who did pay the price that I might have Life.

Guilt, like a spear, brings nothing but fear,
proves in fact that the enemy is near.

As Night gives way to Day,
here among the trees,
I drop to my knees,
my face to the ground,
my Saviour I have found,
never again will I give in,
to the voice that leads to sin.

Guilt, like a knife,
like a blade,
like a dagger,
like a sword,
like a spear,
was defeated once for all on the Cross of Calvary.